they all ask starfire if she is ok, what about raven? she got raped also lol.
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Erm... hallo, sarcasm? รด.o
Do you think I'd really expect anyone to mutilitate his genitalia? (although... this is happening to a girl worldwide every 11 seconds... female genital cutting rocks *puke*)
It's still awkward seeing people defend this... "art"; whether the victims is real or not.
greez
greez
how is it realistic, it was a giant ink/tentical monster raping her....
and Zone sama has his own web site and does this for a living, so i dont think u spamming his comment box with things ur against is gonna change anything he does..
The act of rape, the pain and her reaction were quite realistic, weren't they?
She should at least have been badly wounded.
And no, I don't think Zone's gonna change anything in his work, why should he? He's a great artist, and by satisfying an assload of perverts he gets lots of fame here... if I was him, I'd continue.
But this doesn't mean you can't critisize it.
And you refer to anyone with a different opinion as spammer? *lol*
Man, go serve some power-obsessed tyrant and torture regime-critics, you'd be in good hands there.
Really.
greez
The gift of animating used for evil, I love it hahah.
*lol* Just making a joke anyway. Sarcasm doesn't always translate well through a comment board. The vast differences of opinion on the subject probably doesn't help. >_>'
To be honest, I'd never heard of the Teen Titans until stumbling across "fan art" on forums. But considering the negativity, and given that the tentacle rape seems to offend, perhaps it's time for Zone-Sama to move on to something other than Teen-Titans, but it seems there's going too be at least one more animation.
No hard feelings? No pun intended.
PS: This would have been the perfect oppertunity for posting a picture of Chris Hansen from Dateline NBC... lol
@ Austrian-Mats
theres something that i dont get. you know that zone has been making these animations for a long time right? so why are you even on zone's NG page in the first place if you dont like what he/she is doing? it doesnt make sense really. if theres something that i dont like on newgrounds i just avoid it like most people that have sense. im not saying that you dont have any, but what you're doing is kinda senseless you know? im sure there's some people that would agree with me on this one.
not to be rude or anything but if you dont like something, i suggest you just steer clear of it.
Austin Mats do us all a favor and shut the hell up. Everyone loves Zone's videos and no one cares that you don't approve of fake rape in a cartoon. What's the point of watching adult videos when your going to cry like a bitch every time theres inapropriate conduct? Damn you're the worst kind of hentai hater out there, the kind that thinks someone actually gives a damn about your opinions. Zone will never change his flashes no matter how many idiots bash it. Just sit back, shut up and enjoy the damn movie. If you don't like it... ummm... I don't know.... DON'T WATCH IT! >:(
I like how idiotic people sound saying this isnt well done just because it's hentai
And the "rape is vile" crap is true, but this is not a defenseless women getting beaten or killed, which removes most of the vile-ness of it, the rest of the vile-ness gets removed by it being a CARTOON
And if you're honestly going to use the "its illegal card" you're stupid
Pretty sure Snuff porn is illegal, but snuff hentai isnt
Pretty sure Incest is illegal in some parts, but in hentai isnt
So "lolicon" at best, wont be illegal
And for the record Starfire is assumed to be 15-16, which is legal in majority of the world, and even some parts of the usa, assuming she's 16, and even if she's 15, 1 year does not make a difference since it's still allowed for an 18 year old to date a 17 year old
So good fucking job comparing cartoons to real life, next thing i know you'll start saying games like call of duty 4 promote and make killing people okay
Fucking dumbass, sound like a close minded parential nutjob when you're only 16 "Notorious"
And "Vexorian" it being hentai is not a wasted talent, thats your opinion, and a baseless one at that, if nude portraits can get passed off as artistic, a hentai flash that is better than 99% of the people online. So just because you dont like it doesnt mean it's a waste of talent
Good day retards, and nice job Zone, both in how nice it looks, and picking starfire
YEEEAAAAAHHH !!! that was graphic beyond all measures... ALL i CAN SAY IS UNIQUE
[["Do you even KNOW how old these characters are?? The show is called 'Teen Titans' thus hinting to the high likely hood that they are between the ages 13-18, the only time anyone ages 18 or 19 is generally referred to as a 'teen' is, incidentally, in pornography. This is used to emphasize the fact that they are young, intended to generate larger appeal to the porno. Otherwise if they are 18 or 19 they are more commonly referred to as ADULTS. Teen Titans is not a pornographic show, it also has a large child audience appeal, therefore, the likelyhood that the creators of the show intended for ANY of the Teen Titans to be 18 or 19 is VERY SLIM. However it is still possible.
What we DO know (obviously) is that the character is getting raped. This is an illegal act. And when it is portrayed so graphicly, obscenely, and out of context as it is, it is certainly illegal to display it so. Anybody wishing to argue with me on this, please be sure you know the law before you make a fool out of yourself.
So there you have it, tasteless, and obscene. The fact that these things get such large appeal is sickening. It is a constant reminder that rape is becoming less and less of a shock/scare, which is a bad thing. When cartoon rape becomes accepted in the world, when will video clips of ACTUAL people being raped be considered acceptable? When will rape not be that big of a deal at ALL??"]]
I would like to comment on this. First of all, I'd like to repeat my comment left on Zone-senpai's newest entry:
[Guys... PLEASE, stop harrasing Zone-chan! She's doing the best she could!
I know she's uploading demos to Newgrounds, but think about how much work she put into these flash animations! She's done much more work than the vast majority of animators in the Newgrounds community. She puts the full versions in a pay-site, and upload demo versions, WHICH ARE ONLY ONE SCENE LESS THAN THE FULL VERSIONS, up into other websites for free. You should all be damn grateful.
Also, I'd like to comment on the whole "cartoon porn hating" thing. Of course, I myself despise cartoon porn. And I also despise the foreign-to-Japan use of the word "hentai". "Hentai" means "pervert" in Japanese. It also means "strange". The word Hentai does not mean porn, or anything similar. I hate the way you people call this shit hentai. It's horribly insulting as rape of the Japanese language, you English fucks. She works too hard on her work to be insulted in such a way.
I am an artist and animator myself of similar art (not always as explicit...), and I know how taxing it is to produce quality work. Think about it guys, if you would take about half a year to make an epic animation, you wouldn't just want people to have the whole thing for FREE, would you? All your hard work, lost time, and any art supplies/computer hardware/computer software you might have bought, for work with no profit? She uploads more than she needs to for you people. Please respect her generosity.
I adore your work, Zone-dono. It is all so beautifully done. I hope someday to be as great an animator as you, as you are one of my role-models in artistry. Although your most mainstream flash work is explicit in nature, it is highly detailed and masterful work. Thank you for all you've uploaded for me and those ignorant ranters before me.
Also, if you wouldn't mind, do you think I could take your concepts of Zone-tan on your website and draw Zone-tan myself? Perhaps make a cameo with her somewhere in a manga I'm working on? Don't worry, I'll give plenty of credit to you. And if you say no, I'll remove her before publication. Thank you very, very much, Zone-senpai!]
Now, on your comment... I do sympathize with your concern on a children's anime being combined with sexual scenes, and Zone should definitely do more original work... but, look at things this way. The mainstream media censors absolutely everything for young children, taking away every mention of sexual or violent behavior. Way more than necessary, might I add. But this isn't the issue. I think it is correct, to a degree, for the government to restrict this type of material from reaching the eyes of children on TV and in books, but you cannot deny that they will get a hold of it just as much as you cannot deny that child rape and violence happens in reality.
Underage sex and violence happens every day, do you deny this? I as an artist myself don't censor my work, but also do not make my art entirely violence and/or sex. I wouldn't exactly hand out my work to a third grade class, but you get what I mean, right? Artists do have a right to express what would happen if the situation should arise in reality.
I know that it is HIGHLY unlikely that a creature like that tentacle thing would suddenly appear on Earth, but if it did, and it had an ability to engage in the act of sex with other creatures and enjoyed doing so, who's to say that it wouldn't take those who opposed it and begin to have sex with it? It most likely would not care one bit if they wanted it, nor how old they were.
I am a strong believer in bringing things into realistic terms for art. No matter how much of fantasy is added into art, I think of what would happen in our world if something so extraordinary were to actually occur. Zone-sama took that episode of Teen Titans, and expressed what she thought would have really occured if that were to happen. Of course, she could've just been feeling rather horny at the time and made a tentacle-rape scene, which I sympathize to as well. It makes no difference, it's artistic expression.
Who's to censor our thoughts? We draw what we'd like. We wouldn't create art, and only keep it to ourselves. We'd like to be able to share what we've made for others to enjoy as well, and if not, to think about. They could use our art to think about the situation. Or hell, they could just FAP to it, and ZONE-TAN could watch them FAP to it. We make art, for our release as well as the world's eyes. Bathe in the chaos. We'll bring the drinks.
Please respect our efforts. Thank you again, %u30BE%u30F3%u305B%u3093%u3071%u3044, I hope we could together bring the world to see things through our eyes for once.
[For good measure, clarification:]
Now, on your comment, Notorious... I do sympathize with your concern on a children's anime being combined with sexual scenes, and Zone should definitely do more original work... but, look at things this way. The mainstream media censors absolutely everything for young children, taking away every mention of sexual or violent behavior. Way more than necessary, might I add. But this isn't the issue. I think it is correct, to a degree, for the government to restrict this type of material from reaching the eyes of children on TV and in books, but you cannot deny that they will get a hold of it just as much as you cannot deny that child rape and violence happens in reality.
Underage sex and violence happens every day, do you deny this? I as an artist myself don't censor my work, but also do not make my art entirely violence and/or sex. I wouldn't exactly hand out my work to a third grade class, but you get what I mean, right? Artists do have a right to express what would happen if the situation should arise in reality.
I know that it is HIGHLY unlikely that a creature like that tentacle thing would suddenly appear on Earth, but if it did, and it had an ability to engage in the act of sex with other creatures and enjoyed doing so, who's to say that it wouldn't take those who opposed it and begin to have sex with it? It most likely would not care one bit if they wanted it, nor how old they were.
I am a strong believer in bringing things into realistic terms for art. No matter how much of fantasy is added into art, I think of what would happen in our world if something so extraordinary were to actually occur. Zone-sama took that episode of Teen Titans, and expressed what she thought would have really occured if that were to happen. Of course, she could've just been feeling rather horny at the time and made a tentacle-rape scene, which I sympathize to as well. It makes no difference, it's artistic expression.
Who's to censor our thoughts? We draw what we'd like. We wouldn't create art, and only keep it to ourselves. We'd like to be able to share what we've made for others to enjoy as well, and if not, to think about. They could use our art to think about the situation. Or hell, they could just FAP to it, and ZONE-TAN could watch them FAP to it. We make art, for our release as well as the world's eyes. Bathe in the chaos. We'll bring the drinks.
Please respect our efforts. Thank you again, Zone-senpai, I hope we could together bring the world to see things through our eyes for once.
I Love this one 5/5
Is there a way I could get this for my ipod?
i love it!! and all your other flashes they rock which means... U ROCK!!!
hell yah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Darmoth85
@Austrian-Mats
Yes... having a "normal discussion" is rather hard, when you start your post off by telling people to mutilate their genitalia.
Just saying...